Official Measurer Del Cline clarifies that jib sheet leads can be located anywhere inside the gunwale as needed, with the rule being due to speculation about the correct point. He notes that Stan Bassett and Sandy Douglass think this ruling will help, and invites others to send further information.
Class Rules, Measurement & Eligibility
Class Measurement & Chief Measurer Rulings
Chief Measurer columns and memos detailing official measurement standards, tolerances, and rule compliance.
237 articles · 1946–2026
Announcement that Thistles built from kits can be measured by club measurers. A form is available from National Secretary Fred Best for recording measurement data to send to chief measurer Del Cline.
Official spinnaker measurements for the Thistle class were established by the Measurement Committee on March 31, 1949. The measurements specify luff, foot, diagonal, and cross measurements with specified tolerances. Luffs must be of equal length and wire luffs are prohibited.
Technical rulings from the Measurement Committee meeting of December 12, 1948, establishing specifications and restrictions for various boat components including rudders, poles, booms, grating, and rigging equipment.
The Chief Measurer has ruled that running back stays are not permitted. A list of measurement committee members has been appointed to assist the Chief Measurer across various locations.
At the Annual Meeting, Frank LeBouttillier and his Measurement Committee submitted 11 rulings for ratification. All but one were approved by the Association. The 10 approved rulings cover technical specifications for Thistle boats including tilting rudders, boom size, sliding goose necks, toe straps, boom preventers, main sheet leads, jib fairleaders, outrigged mechanical devices, and goose neck fittings.
The Executive Committee issues a ruling on spinnaker measurements, establishing specific dimension limits for competition from August 1, 1951 through June 1, 1952, addressing concerns about spinmakers exceeding previously established measurements.
Technical diagrams and specifications for measuring spinnaker and mainsail dimensions on Thistle Class sailboats, establishing the official 1952 measurement standard.
Chief Measurer Devlin has selected the members of the Measurement Committee who will serve as TCA's bureau of standards until September 1954.
Limoburgh clarifies the boat measurement certification process for new boats, explaining when builders and owners must conduct measurements and submit certificates to the class measurer.
The Governing Board appointed a committee to clarify inadequacies in measurement procedures within the Constitution and By-Laws. The committee recommended amendments to give the Chief Measurer greater authority and responsibility for measurement decisions, with specific amendments proposed to Articles X, XIV, XIII, and XV of the constitution.
Chief Measurer George Devlin addresses two frequently asked questions regarding fiberglass protection on centerboards and rudders, and the legality of sliding gooseneck fittings. He confirms that metal or fiberglass wrapping is permissible and that sliding goosenecks are prohibited by the rules.
Chief Measurer George Devlin addresses technical questions about reducing sailcloth weight restrictions for synthetic materials and whether to allow foreign three-ply hull construction. He discusses the challenges of enforcement and proposes data collection methods.
The Chief Measurer discusses proposed changes to measurement procedures for determining the legitimacy of mainsails and jibs at large regattas. He explains that the Governing Board has declared certain procedures "free passage" and therefore illegal, with simplified methods now submitted for approval at the Annual Meeting.
George Devlin, Chief Measurer of the Thistle Class, reports on measurement results from the Gross Isle Yacht Club and Detroit River Fleet races, highlighting unusual situations that arose during the season and providing final standings from multiple racing events.
Column by Chief Measurer George Devlin discussing technical aspects of jibstays and adjustable rigs on Thistle boats. Provides technical guidance on equipment modifications and their impact on sailing performance.
Technical column by Chief Measurer George Devlin discussing sail measurement specifications and tolerances for Thistle class boats, including detailed dimensions for mainsails, jibs, and structural measurements.
An article by Chief Measurer George A. Devlin outlining the specific requirements and tolerances for boat measurements adopted at the Summer 1956 meeting of the TCA. Details compliance standards for spinnakers, jibs, mainsails, centerboards, and rudders.
Details the official measurement procedures for all Thistle sloops intending to sail in the 1957 Nationals, including specifications for spinmakers, mainsails, masts, booms, centerboards, rudders, and the limitations on modifications.
The Chief Measurer responds to inquiries about boat modifications, specifically regarding the use of fiberglass or Dural materials for booms and masts, and addresses questions about spinmaker pole placement and other technical matters.
George Devlin clarifies the official rule on jib stay snaps, stating that the 1950 plan allows for 8 jib stay snaps and that the 1952 plan's omission of this specification was merely an oversight.
Report on changes to the Thistle Class Measurement Certificate for 1958, including modifications to beam measurement procedures and boom length calculations. The Chief Measurer published new tolerances for measurement check points with detailed specifications for all relevant dimensions.
Specifications for new measurement checks to be conducted at the forthcoming Nationals in Fairhope, including M and I dimension requirements, spinnaker and sail specifications, and batten pocket requirements.
A correction to measurement data published in the previous issue, noting that a measurement marked as 'S' should have been 2 5/8 inches, not 2 ½ inches.
The Chief Measurer announces new measurement and registration procedures adopted at the 1957 TCA meeting, now required for all new boats and boats being transferred to new owners.
Norton discusses the Thistle class measurement and registration system, noting the difficulties in getting boats properly registered and re-measured as required by bylaws. She explains the importance of registration for the class and the practical challenges members face in completing this process.
Chief Measurer George Devlin clarifies requirements for spinnaker sail numbers in response to an inquiry, confirming there are no specific requirements in Thistle bylaws for particular number designations.
Continuation of Chief Measurer Devlin's column addressing NAYRU rules and spinnaker specifications, with clarifications on measurements and Thistle class technical requirements.
Chief Measurer George Devlin provides a comprehensive list of official rulings on proposed modifications to Thistle design and fittings. The rulings cover main sheet, boom, buoyancy tanks, reefing gear, and numerous other components.
From The Measurer column: Walt Stubner submits detailed technical questions about Thistle class rules and specifications. George Devlin, Class Measurer, provides answers covering centerboard slot specifications, reefing winches, permanent wedges, bow seats, and other technical matters.
Fleet 67 held a required sail measurement meeting during May 1959 to qualify boats for the season. Despite initial attempts to find suitable space, they successfully held the meeting by torchlight on a member's lawn with beer and an efficient measuring crew, finding only a few illegal sails.
Measurer Walt Stubner poses several technical questions about Thistle class specifications to TCA Measurer George Devlin, relating to centerboard slot length and other design specifications.
Continuation of measurer's answers to technical questions about Thistle class specifications, particularly regarding roller reeving winches and other equipment.
Measurer George Devlin answers several questions from Walt Stubner about centerboard slot specifications, cover boards, rubber seals, and other class construction details in a Q&A format.
A technical article providing instructions for Thistle sailors on how to locate and re-mark boot top guide lines that have been lost or worn off, using household tools and hull plans.
Chief Measurer George Devlin issued a letter to all fiberglass Thistle owners on June 27 requesting they contact him to update their measurement certificates and ensure compliance with class standards.
Chief Measurer Dave Minton discusses the inconsistent measurement of sails at District Championships versus National Championships, advocating for individual measurement by members to avoid disqualifications and ensure consistency across events.
Dave Minton's column discusses sail measurement methods and specifications for Thistle class boats, explaining how measurements should be taken to ensure proper sail size and compliance with class rules.
Technical specifications and measurement guide for Thistle spinnaker sails, showing detailed diagrams and point-of-measurement locations with specific dimension ranges.
Technical specifications for jib sail measurements, with diagrams showing placement and measurement methodology for Thistle class jibs.
A lighthearted column from Chief Measurer Homer Abramson addressing various administrative matters including mail delays, address changes, and new parenthood news from the Thistle community.
A humorous column noting that official mail got delayed, some address changes were slow, and Shipmate Marlin (924) and crew announced a new female crew member named Debra.
Chief Measurer addresses several ruling items from the 1960 Nationals, including recommendations on extra buoyancy, supplemental flotation placement, and various hull design specifications. Discusses approved rulings on lower pintle shoes, transom fitting modifications, and boom length standards.
Reports on the Governing Board's approval of a Measurement Committee at their St. Petersburg meeting. Lists committee members including the Chief Measurer and describes the committee's role in advising the Chief Measurer and proposing rule changes.
Technical explanation of the Official Plans hull dimensions and how they relate to measurement requirements. Discusses the complexity of hull design specifications and the need to verify dimensions against official standards.
Official rulings from the Chief Measurer addressing questions about class specifications and regulations, including matters about forward fitting placement, buoyancy tank capacity, spinmaker pole fitting adjustments, and boom length regulations for the Thistle class.
The Governing Board approved the Measurement Committee at a St. Petersburg meeting in January, listing the five committee members appointed by Chief Measurer Dave Minton to oversee class specifications and boat development.
Continuation of official rulings from the Chief Measurer addressing questions about lower fitting on transom for rudder and related specifications.
Technical article by the Chief Measurer addressing questions about Thistle hull dimensions, measurement specifications, and how official measurements differ from typical class specifications.
Technical explanation and diagram showing the general lines and offset dimensions of the Thistle hull, illustrating how the boat's shape is defined by the Official Plans and how dimensions are measured.
Comprehensive analysis of boat weight variations in the Thistle fleet, discussing the desirability of establishing minimum and maximum weight limits. Chief Measurer Minton proposes a minimum all-up weight of 500 lbs and maximum of 550 lbs, with detailed weight data from the 1960 National Championships showing no clear advantage for lighter boats.
Chief Measurer discusses all-up weight limitations for Thistles during the 1960 National Championships. The memo explores the variation in weights of boats in other classes and proposes establishing a minimum all-up weight of 550 lbs, addressing issues of boat performance standardization.
Correspondence between George Devlin (Chief Measurer) and Pete Borden regarding boat weight and performance. The discussion debates whether boat weight is the primary factor in racing success, with references to specific boats and measurements.
A notice about the need for duplicate measurement certificates to be sent to the National Secretary's office to maintain a complete file of boat measurements.
A detailed technical ruling by the Chief Measurer regarding a protest of Thistle #1233's illegal centerboard design. The ruling disqualifies the boat from competition until the centerboard is corrected, with detailed explanation of the Bylaws provisions and precedent.
Detailed ruling on a measurement protest concerning an alleged illegal centerboard on Thistle #1233. The Chief Measurer upheld an original protest decision and discusses the authority and procedures governing such measurement appeals.
President Devlin announces appointments to the Executive Committee and the measurement committee. These committees include prominent members responsible for governance and boat measurement standards.
Administrative note explaining new procedures for duplicate measurement certificates. The association is creating permanent records for all registered boats. Owners are requested to submit blank certificate copies to complete the file.
Explanation of the Certificate of Measurement system for registered Thistle boats. The article discusses the importance of proper measurement records and procedures for maintaining certification files.
Chief Measurer Dave Minton reports a formal protest filed against boat #1361 owned by Jerry Milgram of Brookline, Massachusetts. The protest concerns differences in shear line height and removal of transom gratings.
Chief Measurer Dave Minton has received a formal protest against boat #1361 owned by Jerry Wig from Brookline, Massachusetts. The protest concerns differences in height between the port and starboard sides of the boat at the gunwale.
Technical memo from the Chief Measurer addressing qualification requirements and measurement procedures for the 1962 National Championship. Details specific measurement tolerances, inspection requirements for sails and equipment, and special provisions for older boats.
Technical memo from the Chief Measurer describing qualification requirements for competing in the 1962 National Championship and detailed measurement specifications for various boat components including sails, spars, weights, and hull dimensions.
Memo from the Chief Measurer addressing a protest committee decision regarding Thistle 1233. The boat has been reinstated and qualified after a centerboard correction was made, and measurements are pending further evaluation.
A message from the Chief Measurer discussing recent protest decisions regarding boat measurements. The Measurer notes that Thistle 1233 has been reinstated and is now considered qualified for competition, with warnings about requiring proper measurement certification.
Chief Measurer addresses several rule clarifications from the TCA Annual Meeting including spinnaker pole fittings, shroud tension devices, and bow eye regulations. Technical discussion of boat measurement standards and safety considerations.
Measurer Dave Minton clarifies several technical matters resulting from the TCA Annual Meeting, including rulings on spinnaker pole fittings, bow toggle arrangements, and other equipment specifications that affect Thistle class racing.
The Chief Measurer presents new and revised rulings for the Thistle Class, adopted by the Governing Board and approved by the fleet at the annual meeting. Changes include modifications to roller reefing gear, boom vang rules, kick-up rudders, rudder and centerboard thickness specifications, and shroud tension devices.
Dave Minton discusses recent changes to Thistle Class rules, including kick-up rudder modifications and dimension specifications for rudders. He clarifies technical details regarding buoyancy tanks and fiberglass hulls.
Dave Minton discusses measurement standards for Thistles, including centerboard and rudder positioning, sail specifications, and reinforcement considerations for class compliance. The memo emphasizes the importance of meeting official specifications for boat legality.
Technical guidance from the Class measurer regarding centerboards and rudders, sail measurements, reinforcing struts, and various boat components to ensure compliance with official measurements and rules.
Technical memo from the class measurer covering centerboards and rudders specifications, reinforcing struts, sails, and other measurement details from the 1963 National Championship. The article clarifies official specifications and corrects previous errors in measurement standards.
Chief Measurer Dave Minton reports new rulings from the Governing Board Meeting in Sayrille, Long Island on August 20, 1963. The memo covers measurement specifications for jibs, board materials, tack grommets, spinnaker poles, and other technical Thistle class rules.
Report on Chief Measurer rulings approved at the Governing Board Meeting in Sayville on August 20, 1963. Details new regulations concerning sail material fasteners, zipperluft jibs, mast fastening, and spinner pole positioning.
Chief Measurer discusses centerboard measurements, noting differences in new measurements and adopted tolerances. The article covers specific dimension changes and explains measurement procedures for various boat parts.
A technical memo from the Chief Measurer discussing standardized dimensions for Thistle centerboards, rudders, and sails based on measurements taken at the 1963 Nationals. Discusses tolerances for measurement accuracy and mainsail specifications.
Column by Chief Measurer David Minton explaining the philosophy behind class measurement rulings on sail improvements, emphasizing prevention of specification drift while allowing innovations that maintain competitive equality.
The Chief Measurer discusses his ruling philosophy on sail innovations, emphasizing conservative specifications to prevent competitive advantage. Covers issues like synthetic materials, sail cloth weight, and centerboard specifications.
Detailed technical article by the Chief Measurer about the 1964 Nationals measurement procedures. Covers weight requirements, sail specifications, and clarifications of Chief Measurer's Rulings. Discusses the standardization challenges faced during the championships.
Discussion of measurement procedures required by the International Sailing class, detailing specific measurements like all-up weight, masts and booms, sails, battens, and spinnaker poles, with notes on common errors.
Continuation of the Measurer's Memo discussing sail measurements, measurement tolerances, and specific rulings for various Thistle Class modifications including main traveler, jib luff, and spinnaker fittings.
Chief Measurer Dave Minton explains new TCA Governing Board ruling on sail changes, discussing Fleet #1's proposal to restrict Cunningham holes and zippers, and the process for amending class rules through constitutional procedure.
Brief ruling from the Chief Measurer that battery-powered electric pumps are not permitted in Thistle Class boats, as NAYRU rules require manual power only.
Brief technical rulings from the Chief Measurer regarding electric pumps, centerboard wood-lead buildup, and maintenance notes for Thistle boats.
Chief Measurer Dave Minton presents an update on sails policy and centerboard tolerances for the Thistle Class. Discusses the interpretation of sail regulations and indicates that the Governing Board has adopted a policy addressing sails, with no items of hardware, material, or fitting to be used for adjusting shape except those specifically shown in the Official Plans.
Chief Measurer Dave Minton's report on centerboard tolerance standards, approved fleet charters, and the status of Official Plans and Specifications for Thistle boats.
A detailed technical memo by the Chief Measurer examining centerboard and rudder tolerance specifications for the Thistle class. Minton presents measurement data and specifications for centerboard A dimensions and rudder Z dimensions, discussing how tolerances affect class uniformity and competitive fairness.
Technical article examining centerboard and rudder tolerances based on specifications established at the 1965 Governing Board meeting in St. Petersburg. Provides detailed measurement data showing that tighter tolerances could be applied to centerboards and rudders without negatively affecting workmanship or boat performance.
Technical article explaining the new measurement certificate for Thistle boats, including detailed information about changes to hull measurements, tolerances, and check measurement procedures to ensure compliance with class specifications.
Technical article explaining changes to the Thistle Class measurement certificate. A new certificate has been designed to provide complete specifications of the Thistle while maintaining consistency with tolerance standards. The design accommodates specifications for both wood and fiberglass hulls with updated measurements for centerboard, rudder, and other components.
Technical memo covering updates on centerboard availability, jib specifications and tabling guidelines, hiking rig inquiries, and changes to the measurement certificate for more accurate rudder positioning and control procedures.
The Chief Measurer discusses the current state of Thistle class specifications and measurements, noting the successful publication of the new specifications and reviewing key measurement issues.
The Chief Measurer reflects on his role and responsibilities within the class. Discusses new specifications published in the yearbook, interpretation of class rules, and addresses practical issues such as hull number markings and fiberglass construction details.
Official TCA Governing Board meeting held August 21, 1966 at Sayville Yacht Club. Topics include National Race Committee reports, Constitution clarifications, establishment of new districts, and discussions of boat measurement standards.
Himsworth provides news about MG Co. in San Angelo as an approved builder and discusses new tolerances at St. Pete in 1966. He addresses the NAYRU appeal decision on shifting ballast rules and provides guidance on the new Measurer's Ruling 34, emphasizing proper procedures for skippers regarding shifting ballast.
Technical memo from Chief Measurer Himsworth addressing fiberglass centerboards, NAYRU rule violations, proper dress code for sailors, and the proposal of a new ruling regarding ballast shifting.
Technical notes on Thistle waterline measurement and maintenance submitted by various sailors and boat builders. Includes detailed instructions from John Romig, Bill Welton, George Levin, and Darwin Bates on establishing proper waterlines for racing boats.
Technical memorandum from the Chief Measurer discussing design considerations for wood hull Thistles, tank specifications, mast design approaches, and stability/fiddling concerns related to boat specifications.
Technical discussion of thwart modifications, weight measurements, trap door installation specifications, and cunningham ring installations approved for fiberglass Thistle hulls.
Technical article from the Chief Measurer discussing recent rule changes including thwart notching for fiberglass boats, weight distribution of participants, and regulations for trap door installations.
Official announcement from Thistle Class President regarding Chief Measurer transition and administrative procedures for communications regarding class specifications and measurements.
A special meeting of the Board of Governors was held to ratify chief measurer rulings regarding boat specifications. Several technical specifications were approved including jib halyard requirements, fiberglass reinforcing, bow flotation, wire pigtails, and existing hulls and rudders modifications.
Chief Measurer's commentary on the 1968 National Championships, discussing Clark boat construction details, mast failures, skin thickness specifications, stem design, transoms, rudders, centerboard gasket design, and recommendations for future construction.
A detailed technical memorandum by Chief Measurer Larry Haupt discussing Dennis Clark's boat construction, including analysis of skin thickness, stem design, rudder construction, and transom specifications. The article provides insights into what made the championship-winning boat successful and discusses technical innovations and specifications.
Chief Measurer's personal reflections on his role in enforcing class rules, the importance of consensus and fairness in measurement decisions, and the need for cooperation from the membership regarding rule compliance and innovation proposals.
Chief Measurer Jim Miller discusses a ruling on wetting agents on the underwater surfaces of Thistles and new Harken ball bearing blocks. He also mentions efforts to develop a more flexible aluminum mast.
A brief note from the Chief Measurer requesting help from Thistlers in setting up a center of gravity limit for centerboards and gathering measurements from different boats.
The Chief Measurer discusses measurement practices and complaints about centerboard specifications at recent regattas. Miller emphasizes the importance of accurate measurement and notes issues with glass boards at the Nationals, recommending further trials of new specifications.
Official announcement of new measurement rules and tolerances adopted by the Chief Measurer following the 1969 Nationals. Covers centerboard thickness standards, mast specifications, and other technical requirements for Thistle Class boats.
Jim Miller discusses measurements conducted at the National Regatta with high accuracy. He notes problems with centerboard specifications and emphasizes the importance of controlling specs in areas of potential boat speed advantages.
Technical memo from the class measurer discussing the proper weighing procedures used at the Nationals and the importance of accurate weight certification for all competing boats.
Continuation of technical memo covering corrections to weighing procedures, boat specifications, and measurement clarifications for Thistle Class boats.
Memo from Chief Measurer Jim Miller discussing the mast development program, including details on changing diamond spreads, aluminum spars, and the need for standardization in boat specifications.
Technical specifications and rulings for Thistle boat measurements and construction. Discusses centerboard modifications, flotation requirements, mast construction, and various technical amendments to class specifications.
Comprehensive technical article covering boat measurement rulings, centerboard specifications, corrector weights, changing centerboard C.G., mast program considerations, and general comments about Thistle boat construction and measurement compliance.
Detailed specifications for measuring Thistle boats for the 1974 National Championship Regatta, including sections on aluminum booms, racing area requirements, and technical specifications for measurement devices and procedures.
Reminder that measurement certificates sent for approval must be checked for corrections, registrations, and duplicate copies, with all measurements requiring proper documentation by July 1, 1974.
The Secretary-Treasurer estimates that 23-30% of all measurement certificates sent for approval have to be returned for corrections, registration or payment. Sailors are encouraged to verify both copies are complete and correct.
Technical details of what will be measured and how boats will be verified for compliance during the 1975 Nationals, including sail measurements, boom specifications, and verification procedures.
This section includes several administrative notes from the Chief Measurer regarding aluminum boom slot limits, addressing certificate corrections, and announcements about the 1975 Nationals and fleet matters.
Technical note about aluminum boom slots for Thistles, clarifying that aluminum boom slots should not exceed 11'11", and recommending screw placement to prevent sail extension beyond legal limits.
Notice about measurement certificates, with the Secretary-Treasurer estimating that 25-30% of all certificates sent in require corrections for registration, signatures, duplicate copies, and other issues.
Chief Measurer urges members to verify that their measurement certificates are accurate and complete. A reminder is issued about the need for correct documentation in both copies.
Administrative notice that measurement certificates must be received and approved by the Secretary-Treasurer on or before July 1976 for inclusion in the official IRI and D boats list for District Championships.
Official notice that measurement certificates must be received and approved by the Secretary-Treasurer on or before July 1, 1976 to be included in the July 1st listing of B and D boats covering eligibility for District Championships.
Discusses TCA's philosophy of maintaining one design while accommodating changes, evolution of materials and hardware over decades, the value of Egyptian cotton and synthetic materials, and plans for standardization and expansion of specifications.
The class measurer discusses the one-design philosophy and construction standards. Topics include the introduction of fiberglass hulls and aluminum masts, maintaining class consistency, and recent equipment developments to ensure competitive fairness.
Technical specification revisions and clarifications related to boat construction and equipment standards.
Technical analysis of rudder weights from 1976 Nationals data. Proposes minimum weight standard of 8 lbs for rudders to balance performance and durability.
A technical discussion about rudder specifications and weight measurements in Thistle class boats, including analysis of rudder variations and recommendations for weight reduction while maintaining structural integrity.
Profile of Marlin Abramson and his wife Honey, highlighting their dedication to Thistling since 1955 and Marlin's work as Chief Measurer and class leader.
A profile of Marlin Abramson, who has been active in Thistling since 1955, covering his background, family involvement in sailing, and his contributions to the Thistle class including measurement expertise and active participation in major regattas.
Chief Measurer reports on new rulings regarding mast and centerboard specifications to address overloading and improve consistency in boat building.
Technical discussions about boat design specifications, centerboard issues, mast designs, wingers (twings), and centerboard problems. Addresses concerns about keeping boats competitive and standardized while addressing the evolving technical requirements of the class.
Chief Measurer Marlin Abramson discusses centerboard glass versus wood debate, spreader specifications, lead placement, and ongoing technical discussions about boat construction standards. Outlines new rulings regarding centerboard construction and board centerboard specifications.
Chief Measurer reports on 1978 St. Pete Mid-Winters measurement procedures and centerboards. Acknowledges volunteers who helped with measuring and proposes specifications documentation for future reference.
Details of official measurements to be taken at the 1978 Nationals and mandatory safety equipment required for each boat, as specified by the Chief Measurer.
The class measurer discusses competitiveness and enforcement of rules, addressing how old Thistles are being kept competitive through maintenance and rule enforcement, quoting from the TCA Constitution about keeping costs and standards within modest limits.
The Chief Measurer reports on Class growth and the condition of the boat inventory. He notes steady used boat circulation and strong new boat sales, and addresses concerns about centerboard measurement standards.
The Chief Measurer reports on board measurements, centerboard specifications, mast makers, and insurance matters related to Thistle boats. Notes concerns about competitive boat performance and provides guidance on official measurement procedures.
The Chief Measurer reports on ongoing efforts to improve centerboard specifications through testing at St. Pete, discusses measurement procedures for the Nationals, and provides notification about boats not in compliance with roller pin dimension specifications.
Technical memo from the Chief Measurer regarding proposed centerboard specification changes based on Mid-Winters measurements and testing.
Technical specifications and measurement details for boats competing in the 1979 Nationals, including measurements to be taken and official ruling references.
The Chief Measurer reports on activity in his office, noting applications for new boat builders and the approval of new Sparks of Buffalo boats. Discussion includes measurement applications and the importance of proper boat registration for Nationals quota.
Comprehensive technical guide to measuring Thistle sails, including detailed instructions for mainsail and jib measurement techniques. Includes diagrams and specific measurement locations, point calculations, and the process for completing measurement patterns used to ensure sails meet class specifications.
The Chief Measurer provides updates on Official Sail Plan changes regarding number placement and size specifications, noting that changes were deferred until boats with new sail designations are measured.
The Chief Measurer discusses new requirements for sail markings and numbering on Thistle boats, with specific details about placement and visibility standards established for compliance with the Official Sail Plan.
Technical discussion of measurement procedures and precision gauges used at the 1979 Nationals, including boom length, spreader location, and rudder specifications, with notes on initial rejections and measurement consistency.
Technical report on the precise measurement methodology and instruments used at the 1979 Nationals, including details on boom length, rudder thickness, shroud location, and quality control procedures implemented by the measurement committee.
Ted Funneleu's analysis of the role of the Chief Measurer in the Thistle Class, emphasizing the importance of measurement standards and the evolution of measurement procedures. The piece discusses how measurement standards have evolved to support both strict one-design management and reasonable flexibility.
The Chief Measurer introduces himself and outlines his plans for boat policy, emphasizing that changes must be beneficial, easily available, and affordable, with updates expected to the Official Plans and Specifications in 1981.
Chief Measurer Ron Smith introduces himself in his new role and outlines his approach to updating Thistle Official Plans and Specifications, emphasizing policy adherence while considering practical improvements.
Technical notes on sail measurements and board specifications, including information about centerboards, roller positions, and a new measurement method called full-drum balancing for improved accuracy.
Technical notes on boat measurements and adjustments discovered during the 1980 Nationals, including centerboard modifications, roller positions, board variations, and recommendations for measurement procedures.
Chief Measurer discusses individual rulings received regarding Mylar sails, fiberglass boards, and boat construction materials. Notes ongoing discussions about centerboard strength requirements and sail materials under the TCA Plans.
The Chief Measurer provides detailed technical guidance on measuring Thistle boats, including step-by-step procedures for measuring the mast, boom, and rudder with specific equipment needed and dimensional specifications.
The chief measurer discusses measurement issues found during the 1982 Nationals, including out-of-tolerance masts and placement of weights. He also addresses new rules for centerboard connections and proposes chief measurer ruling amendments.
The chief measurer provides guidance on hull measurement procedures for pre-1967 boats, explaining the establishment of baseline methods for measuring hulls and the importance of proper measurement for compliance with class rules.
A detailed guide for measuring Thistle hulls according to official equipment measurement certificates. The memo provides specific instructions for taking measurements at various stations on the hull, covering dimensions such as length, beam, height, and other critical measurements needed for proper hull certification.
Chief Measurer Ron Smith discusses measurement issues with keel moldings, transom geometry, masts, hull rockers, and other technical specifications. He provides guidance on proper measurement procedures and emphasizes the need for builders to comply with official specifications.
The Chief Measurer discusses measurement practices at the Sayville Nationals, addressing keel and stem molding specifications, hull striping requirements, and plans for future measurement compliance.
Technical rulings from the Chief Measurer regarding bow tank construction in fiberglass boats, floor stringers in glass boats, and sailcloth doubling at sail corners.
The Chief Measurer addresses technical specifications for Thistle sails, including interpretation of sailcloth reinforcement at mainsail corners, investigation of water leaks in bow tanks, and clarification on prohibited use of mahogany plywood in centerboard trunks.
Technical specifications for Thistle boat measurement at Nationals, detailing what will be measured (sails, poles, boom, centerboard, J dimension), weight requirements, and equipment verification procedures.
Kitchin reports progress on establishing a west coast builder and advises that new keel and stem molding specifications have been approved and are now in effect. He warns that illegal moldings exceeding the 5/8" maximum have been found and recommends quality repairs during upcoming chevron events.
A biographical profile of Chief Measurer A. Lloyd Kitchin, Jr., a long-time Thistle sailor and dedicated club member who has been active in the class for over 30 years and has mentored many young sailors.
Secretary Honey Abramson reminds members to check their measurement certificates carefully, as many incorrect forms were submitted. She provides specific guidance on certificate requirements and the remeasurement process for boats.
Announcement of new Chief Measurers Rule No. 65 and modifications to CMR No. 1 regarding electronic devices and compass use, digital compass wind shift detection, and mainsheet attachment specifications.
Official measurement requirements and specifications for competing at the 1988 Nationals, including boat weight, sail configuration, rudder specifications, mast dimensions, flotation requirements, and required safety equipment.
Important notice regarding new measurement certificates being issued with 1989 or later date stamp, and notification about Leatherlips Yacht Club Fleet #21 dues payment record.
The Chief Measurer reports on issues with fittings that extend the waterline length, such as lower pintles and projecting tabs on the transom. A proposed Chief Measurers Ruling addresses these concerns, detailing specific requirements for the position and extension of fittings in relation to the transom.
Lovett introduces his role as new Chief Measurer and reflects on the measurement process, class rules, and the importance of maintaining balance in the class. He discusses his background in Thistle sailing and his commitment to fairness in enforcement.
The Chief Measurer reports on specification amendments and changes to be voted on at the annual meeting, including modifications to sail reinforcement, anti-flutter tabs, boom vangs, and other technical specifications for compliance with class rules.
The Chief Measurer discusses various measurement issues including fiber halyards, mast butt shims, slab reefing, and centerboard thickness, noting that the TCA continues to improve itself and that riders should use proper technique to minimize breakage.
Chief Measurer Klotz provides detailed instructions on how to properly measure various hull dimensions of a Thistle, with specifications for each measurement and clarifications on points of confusion.
Chief Measurer Klotz addresses rule clarifications regarding mainsail specifications, wood hull construction requirements, and restrictions on various boat components to maintain class consistency and competitive fairness.
Technical specifications table showing hull construction materials, dimensions, and centerboard and rig data for competitive Thistle boats raced at the 1991 Nationals, including crew weights and equipment details.
Chief Measurer Klotz analyzes the 1947 Thistle plans compared to current rules, identifying potential measurement changes needed to the jib luff, foot, and maximum dimensions. He seeks input from experienced sailors on when these historical plan changes were made and advocates for consistency in boat specifications.
Brief memo regarding measurement procedures and administrative updates from the Chief Measurer's office.
Chris Klotz reports on measurement procedures and findings from the Nationals. He notes that most boats passed inspection with only minor adjustments needed, and thanks the measurement team for their efforts.
Detailed report of Chief Measurer Chris Klotz on Green Book changes and revisions approved at the 1992 Nationals. Covers constitutional articles, official measurements, parts and materials specifications, and builder approval processes for Thistle boats.
Chris Klotz reports on measurement activities including a new approved builder, ideas for crew comfort from the Nationals, and details on the National Measurement process for cleats and other equipment during the upcoming championship.
Outgoing Chief Measurer reflects on his four-year tenure, discussing accomplishments and future priorities. Addresses sail reinforcement allowances, Green Book updates, rudder head modifications, and boat flotation requirements.
Chief Measurer Lloyd Kitchin discusses his background and passion for sailing and caring for his family. He shares his sailing experience at various clubs and his commitment to being a dedicated chief measurer.
Chief Measurer announces that specific measurement items will be checked at the Nationals in Fort Walton Beach, including boat weight, corrector weights, sails, rudder, safety equipment, and trailer specifications.
Technical guide explaining how to accurately measure boat weight using bathroom scales and simple calculations. Benson provides step-by-step instructions with formulas to determine boat weight to within one percent accuracy, plus advice on improving measurement accuracy.
Announcement of measurement items to be checked at the 1998 TCA Nationals in Racine, including boat weight, rudder thickness, corrector weight location, sail configuration, safety equipment, and other specifications. Notes that all boats are subject to random inspections.
Technical specifications and measurement requirements for the 1999 Nationals. Lists all equipment and boat components that will be measured including sails, weight, safety equipment, and specific hardware dimensions.
Chief Measurer Bruce McCutcheon outlines his philosophy on boat modifications and class regulations. He explains his conservative approach to changes, focusing on the transom height issue that developed over years and the decision to keep the 3/4 size mainsail illegal to preserve the boat's simplicity and cost-effectiveness.
First report from the new Chief Measurer. Addresses several technical issues including proper sail numbering requirements, non-approved CAD drawings, the now-eliminated 1000 maximum breaking strength requirement for halyards, and his position against cut-down mainsails, preferring the option of reefing instead.
New Chief Measurer Ron Smith outlines his approach to enforcing Class specifications. He emphasizes the importance of builders maintaining compliance to minimize burden on boat owners, and encourages owners to report any questionable measurements to help track builder compliance.
Mccutcheon discusses the decision to maintain official boat plans in mylar rather than convert to CAD, addresses the ongoing issue of transom height discrepancies, and emphasizes the importance of ensuring proper anchor requirements are enforced during racing.
Bruce McCutcheon reminds owners planning to attend Nationals to ensure boats have proper measurement certificates and registration. He discusses ongoing research on wetting agents, noting that Starbrite (containing Teflon) will likely be approved while silicon-based materials like Veridian will be prohibited.
Outgoing Chief Measurer Bruce McCutcheon reflects on his tenure and provides guidance on important issues for the class. He discusses the role of the Thistle list-serve versus the Bagpipe for official communication and cautions against delegating measurement responsibilities to the CM.
Ron Smith provides guidance on registering new or recently acquired Thistles, emphasizing the importance of accurate measurements and the risks of purchasing used boats without re-measuring. He also outlines what will be checked at Nationals and introduces the new transom height measurement.
The Chief Measurer discusses sail window visibility issues in Thistle sails, referencing a collision incident at Northern California Districts and recommending consideration of larger or additional windows to improve safety.
Ron Smith reviews recent rules changes and class governance decisions including fiberglass centerboard weight tolerance adjustments, mast step height tolerance guidelines, and the formation of a flotation study committee. He also discusses construction guidelines for wood hulls that were defeated.
Ron Smith provides detailed instructions for boat measurements required at the 2002 Nationals, including how to measure J, TH, boom slot length, mast height, and all-up weight, emphasizing advance preparation to avoid last-minute issues.
Outgoing Chief Measurer Ron Smith discusses measurement issues that have emerged, including boom specifications, wetting agents, sail windows, boat re-registration problems, wood hull guidelines, and flotation safety concerns.
Gesner outlines his role as the new Chief Measurer and references the Green Book as the primary resource for measurement questions. He explains the general responsibilities of the Chief Measurer position and advises sailors to reference the Green Book first, consult with experienced Thistlers, and contact him directly for ambiguous matters not covered by official specifications.
The Chief Measurer outlines his responsibilities, directs class members to consult the Green Book for measurement rules, and provides contact information for questions about boat specifications and regulations.
Technical guide for measuring Thistle hulls according to class specifications. Detailed instructions cover all dimensions on the official measurement certificate including length, stem height, transom height, centerboard position, mast and jib measurements, beam, sheer height, rail width, and rocker curve measurements. Essential reference for boat owners and measurers.
Official Chief Measurer Rulings (CMRs) regarding mainsail measurements and rudder dimensions, clarifying measurement procedures and tolerances for class boats.
Eric Gesner provides seasonal boat maintenance advice for spring preparation and outlines measurement requirements for the 2005 Nationals including specifications for weight, sail measurements, and safety equipment.
Eric Gesner provides guidance on spring boat preparation and Nationals measurement requirements, emphasizing the importance of checking rudder fittings, bolts, and various safety equipment.
Winchester reports on measurement issues including centerboard trunk construction and stringer specifications. He expresses concern about declining fleet membership and rising boat prices, advocating for getting old boats into the hands of new sailors and educating newcomers about boat condition and proper storage.
The new Chief Measurer introduces himself and outlines his responsibilities. He discusses the role's duties as defined in the Thistle Class Constitution and explains how he interprets the rules with emphasis on maintaining the class as a standard one-design.
Winchester thanks the volunteer measurement team led by Craig Koschalk for successfully measuring all 100 boats at the Nationals two hours ahead of schedule. He acknowledges the extensive volunteer crew and appreciates Eric Gesner's help in handling measurement questions.
Chief Measurer Winchester proposes two Chief Measurer Rulings (CMR #72 and #73) to address measurement issues. CMR #72 makes the tack pin optional for mainsails, allowing a slug attachment instead. CMR #73 permits fillets under the rail with a maximum radius of 1/4 inch to maintain consistency and control boat building techniques.
Chief Measurer's comprehensive report detailing measurement issues addressed during the year, including concerns about floating tack position, fillet size, mast weights, and rudder profiles, with detailed recommendations for future measurement processes and archiving of measurement records.
Official notice from the President regarding Chief Measurer's Ruling #72 on the use of the main tack pin, including grandfathering of sails and current requirements for tack pin usage in racing.
Chief Measurer Pollak discusses his appointment to lead the measurement committee with support from past Chief Measurers. He outlines immediate issues to address including the floating tack pin rule and rudder measurement specifications.
The Chief Measurer addresses rudder measurement standards and tolerances, detailing the proper procedures for measuring rudders and discussing issues with non-conforming rudders. Includes a detailed description of building a rudder measurement jig by Dan Winchester.
Chief Measurer lists specific measurements required at the Pensacola Nationals including rudder specifications, J dimension, weight, and sail measurements. Also reports on mast failure investigation findings and prevention recommendations.
Chief Measurer Pollak details the measurement items required for the 2009 Nationals at Cedar Point Yacht Club, covering hull weight, mast specifications, sail measurements, and safety equipment requirements. He also previews a potential amendment regarding floating tack slugs.
Chris Pollak, Chief Measurer, reports on his continued work with the Measurement Committee on class issues including tack slugs, rudder profiles, mast steps, and spar specifications. He also reflects on the value of Bagpipe back issues as historical resources.
Chief Measurer Chris Pollak reports on measurement activities over the past six months, including membership of the Measurement Committee, boat variance requests, spar and rigging failures, wooden rudder reinforcement with fiberglass, rudder measurement protocol issues, and sail measurement guidelines. He also discusses proposed changes to CMR 40 regarding wetting agents and seeks input on several technical matters.
Pollak addresses measurement inquiries covering R dimensions (hull rocker specifications), mandatory Coast Guard safety equipment requirements, revised class plans for hull construction and sail plan, and specific technical details about bow knuckles, half-oval moldings, and mainsail foot specifications.
Pollak provides guidance on frequently asked questions about Thistle boat specifications, measurements, and modifications. Topics covered include resources for boat plans, tolerances, lightening holes, fiberglass reinforcing, carbon fiber materials, PFDs, spreader lengths, and wetting agents.
Chief Measurer Pollak explains the role of Chief Measurer's Rulings and interpretations in class administration, and details the measurement requirements for boats competing in the 2010 National Championships, including weight, centerboard and rudder tolerances, sails, and safety equipment.
The Chief Measurer provides comprehensive advice for improving boat performance through systematic preparation. He covers boat selection, glass vs. wood construction, hardware maintenance, blade fairness, rigging setup, and mast preparation techniques.
Pollak addresses questions about jibe lines (also called Jesus lines or mid-boom sheeting), discussing whether they are permitted under the class rules. He concludes they are not shown on the Official Plans and cannot be permitted under present rules, though fleets can submit amendments if they wish to allow them.
Chief Measurer Chris Pollak discusses the reversal of his initial ruling against jibe lines, following discussion with the Executive Committee and Governing Board at Nationals. Jibe lines are now permitted for initiating or controlling a jibe but not for trimming or pumping the mainsail, pending formal approval. Pollak emphasizes reliance on the honor system for compliance.
Pollak reports strong participation of older sailors at the Chautauqua Nationals, with 38 Old Goats (50+) and 18 genuine geezers (60+) among 87 pre-registered boats. He outlines a streamlined measurement process that will not require centerboard measuring for the first time in three years, lists specific safety and equipment requirements to be checked, and encourages sailors to verify their boats meet Class rules.
Chief Measurer Chris Pollak outlines what equipment and measurements will be checked during the Nationals registration process in Westport. Details include required safety equipment, weight requirements, flotation specifications, and sail measurement protocols.
The Chief Measurer announces that Beacon Composites is now the approved builder of Thistle hulls and discusses a long-standing measurement issue with beam dimensions at Stations 1 and 2. Details what will and will not be checked at the 2021 Nationals, including safety equipment, weight, flotation, and sail declarations.
The incoming Chief Measurer reflects on his personal history with Thistles, starting at age eight. He acknowledges Chris Pollak's 14 years of service and outlines his plans to find a new mast and boom supplier and establish a regional measurement committee.
Wayne Pignolet discusses the measurement committee's additions and ongoing work. He introduces Bob White from Columbus as the newest committee member, and reports progress on mast/boom supplier reliability and reorganization of boat plans and specifications with 3D drawings.
The Measurement Team has reorganized Chief Measurement Rulings and Specifications for improved clarity and accessibility without changing intent or detail. Updates will require a 2/3 majority vote at the annual meeting.
Pignolet reports on three ongoing projects: testing prototypes for a new mast butt/mast step interface to be distributed to Thistle hotbed areas, digitizing official plans with assistance from engineers including a Boeing expert, and exploring how new electronics technology like GPS trackers and Mark Set Bot could improve management of major regattas.
Bob White dedicates his Chief Measurer column to Wayne Pignolet and explains the measurement committee's goals of making boats safer, keeping them economical, and upholding the one-design concept. He emphasizes the importance of following proper channels for boat modifications.
Details an issue at the 2023 Flathead Nationals where competitors arrived with non-compliant electronic compasses. Provides a comprehensive review of current compass rules and evaluates popular digital compass models, approving some and rejecting others based on class compliance.
Chief Measurer Bob White reports on the measurement procedures at Nationals, noting that most boats passed safety inspections with minor adjustments. He discusses six fat rudders found, positive flotation issues in two fiberglass boats, and equipment failures including six broken diamond wires and a few collisions. He also describes experimental successes with increased underseat positive flotation for wooden boats and a reefing mainsail test.
The Chief Measurer discusses the importance of maintaining the Thistle's one-design heritage while making necessary adaptations to remain competitive, emphasizing the need for written communication about measurement questions and changes to maintain a proper record.
Chief Measurer Hudson announces work on a Chief Measurer's Ruling for electronic OCS detection devices to be voted on at Nationals. He reports on new mast builder Allen Boat Works and notes custody of the Great Midwest/Beacon hull mold.
Chief Measurer Hudson outlines the specific measurements planned for the 2026 Nationals in Eugene, including hull weight, mast weight, sail measurements, and centerboard specifications. He notes the importance of accounting for weight changes when traveling west and provides specific measurement tolerances and references to the Class Constitution.
A practical guide to preparing boats for measurement at the 2026 Nationals in Eugene. Murray provides specific instructions for each measurement category (mast weight, centerboard thickness, J measurement, boat weight, sails, and Vakaros compass) and emphasizes the importance of proper preparation and packing of sails to streamline the process. She also invites sailors to volunteer as measurers.